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Generational Dynamics Web Log for 23-Aug-06
Debate over civil war in Iraq rages over semantics

Web Log - August, 2006

Debate over civil war in Iraq rages over semantics

An actual crisis civil war in Iraq is impossible, but it's now embroiled in the November elections, and so nothing that's said has any meaning at all.

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I'm not going to go over all the arguments again, since I've done so many times on this web site. I'll just comment on some of the new twists and turns.

The debate has gone completely away from what the "real" definition of a civil war is into whether the term "civil war" can be redefined for political purposes. With suicide bombers and roadside bombs killing some 100 Iraqis a day, there's certainly plenty of room for politicians to make hay.

The simple answer is this: the violence going on today in Iraqi is being driven by money -- money from al-Qaeda on the Sunni side and from Iran on the Shiite side -- as I've previously explained in detail.

A real civil war is driven by the people -- by massive hatred between the groups supposedly at war. I've seen no evidence in the press that ordinary Iraqi Sunnis and Shiites hate each other; every story seems to indicate that they want to live together in peace.

If this were a real civil war, then ordinary Iraqi Sunnis and Shiites would want to kill each other. It's as simple as that, and nothing remotely like that is happening.

We have an actual crisis civil war going on today in Sudan, where government-sponsored Arab militias are slaughtering, starving and raping millions of non-Arab people in Darfur. Nothing like that is happening in Iraq.

Another recent real civil war was the Bosnian war in the 1990s. I'd like to repeat Amy Chua's description of this war, given in her book World on Fire: "In the Serbian concentration camps of the early 1990s, the women prisoners were raped over and over, many times a day, often with broken bottles, often together with their daughters. The men, if they were lucky, were beaten to death as their Serbian guards sang national anthems; if they were not so fortunate, they were castrated or, at gunpoint, forced to castrate their fellow prisoners, sometimes with their own teeth. In all, thousands were tortured and executed."

That's the kind of emotion we'd have to see to conclude that there's a civil war in Iraq.

But what we're seeing today is a debate of the political definition of civil war which, like so many things that politicians talk about, has absolutely nothing to do with reality. (23-Aug-06) Permanent Link
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